This argument is completely invalid in my opinion. How are we supposed to be against harming other human beings if we harm animals in torturous manners? My guess is that you've never looked at what goes on inside of a feed lot, how it affects even our oceans, and how we have become the invasive species, set on killing painfully despite restrictions put in place. From your viewpoint, we should consider ourselves animals as well, and I agree with that. What I do not agree with is your analogy between animals and human-to-human cruelty.

PETA is far-fetched in many ways, I'm not a full supporter of some of their endeavors, but I am a full supporter of their prerogative, which is to treat animals in an ethical manner.

I see both sides.
I don't like PETA, I feel they can be petty and bureacratic. But it's difficult to say that the ethical treatment of animals is not a good cause.

I agree with Connor. Your post is invalid.

I wrote a better reply, but it disappeared, so here we go again:

I used to be anti-Peta as well after getting called out by inept users on a forum. It turned me off to the idea. People need to be considerate about converting people.

In fact, I used to be anti-vegetarian, as well. I used stupid logic like "Not eating it doesn't make it alive again." I didn't consider that supporting slaughter was heartless, or that meat was slowly deteriorating my health.

My friend Katie was telling me about her experiences with veganism. She's been vegetarian for six years, and went vegan a month or two before I did.

She said she feels amazing, lost nearly thirty pounds [not a big girl to begin with.]. She said her skin is clear and she never sweats. She just feels alive.

As do I. For those of you that have problems with pimples or whatever, you would be surprised how much your diet can change that. My friend and manager went veggie a few weeks ago, and he's already noticed his face is clearer and he's feeling better.

Here are some videos: